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Thread: Robert Venditti Off Constantine And Jim Zubkavich Off Birds Of Prey Already (UPDATE) - Make Room For Jeff Lemire, Ray Fawkes And Christy Marx
01-14-2013, 01:09 PM #1
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Robert Venditti Off Constantine And Jim Zubkavich Off Birds Of Prey Already (UPDATE) - Make Room For Jeff Lemire, Ray Fawkes And Christy Marx
We told you a week ago that DC was going to have to start announcing that a number of people had been taken off books, even before they started - with the unfortunate problem that solicitations had run and PR had been issued.
In a PR-arranged conversation with CBR, Bobbie Chase and Bob Harras announced that Robert Venditti and Jim Zubkavich has already been taken off their respective new comics in the DCU before their first issues had shipped. That Jeff Lemire and Ray Fawkes would be writing Constantine - if you remember, Ray Fawkes was to have taken over Batgirl before that decision was reversed - and that Christy Marx is to write Birds Of Prey - the first time a woman has written that title since Gail Simone.
Here's how they explain it;Robert came to us with a fantastic pitch for "Constantine;" we really loved what Robert's doing -- he's working on "Demon Knights" now, and he's also working on another project for us that I really can't go into which is a big deal for us. But at the end of the day, Robert and Dan [DiDio] and I spoke, and "Constantine" was, for him, one book too many. It was the one thing that we had to go, "If we want you to focus on this one project, maybe we should make a change on 'Constantine.'" Jeff Lemire and Ray Fawkes very professionally, very nicely stepped up to the challenge [of launching "Constantine"].To have to switch creative teams on a project that's already been solicited once may seem unfortunate. To do three times looks like... something's up. A lot of this is specific choice of language and reflective of larger editorial changes coming down from above. But there's one back and forth that cannot be explained by mere disengenousness.
Harras: Jim had a great pitch for "Birds Of Prey," but as things came together in discussion and the creative churn, we all saw what Christy was doing on "Amethyst," and we were looking at "Birds Of Prey" and internally and editorially we were thinking of taking it in a different direction. The decision was made that we were going to go in a different direction than what Jim had originally envisioned. We definitely, definitely want to continue working with Jim, but at this moment, we wanted to go in a particular direction. Bobbie started working with Jim months ago --
Chase: He's a great writer. He's a great idea guy, and I look forward to working with him again.
Harras: In the creative process, these things sometimes happen and he totally understood. Obviously, he was a bit disappointed, but he understood. We hope to work with him on another project.
Since we're on the topic of creative changes, one of the things that was a big discussion point for a while was Gail Simone being on and off "Batgirl." With Gail now reinstated on the title, I have to ask -- how much was fan outcry and fan support part of that creative editorial decision?Now. Hmm. Ray was brought in for two issues, true. But then, Gail Simone was fired from the book. I was told that Ray was then to continue writing the book until that changed and DC reversed its policy.
Harras: What we had was Ray [Fawkes] coming on for two months to help out, schedule-wise. We're very happy Gail is back; she's on the book moving forward, so to me, that was a moment in time where we were just looking for Gail's next plot to come in and we're moving forward.
A good chunk of the interview could be seen as disingenous. But describing Gail's firing as "looking for Gail's next plot to come in"... well something tells me that could be our next comic book industry euphemism meme.
UPDATE:I understand Jeff Lemire and Ray Fawkes will co-plot Constantine, with Ray scripting and art by Renato Guedes...
01-14-2013, 01:10 PM #2
Somehow this will be defended"Looking past all that, with the number of regular comic buyers steadily decreasing, now would be a good time to be more inclusive of other genders, races, orientations, etc. There's only so many white dudes left." - downlikecharlie
01-14-2013, 01:14 PM #3
what about Marvel though?
they do things.*Sob* so many dead...why? *Sob* --Crying Sandwich Guy
01-14-2013, 01:17 PM #4
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the bigger question on batgirl, which no one has answered yet, is whether the editor is remaining in place
01-14-2013, 01:19 PM #5
Aw man. I really wanted to read JZ's BoP. I wonder if the Christie Marx thing is them doing some Simone damage control. "Look, we're cool! The girl is writing the girls book!"
01-14-2013, 01:21 PM #6
Wasn't planning on reading Constantine, but I have to say I'm really enjoying Marx's work on Amethyst so I'm looking forward to what she's gonna do on BOP(though I do feel bad for Jim Zub).
01-14-2013, 01:23 PM #7"Looking past all that, with the number of regular comic buyers steadily decreasing, now would be a good time to be more inclusive of other genders, races, orientations, etc. There's only so many white dudes left." - downlikecharlie
01-14-2013, 01:27 PM #8
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It's all part of the 'plan'.
Do me a favor, Harras... shut up.
01-14-2013, 01:28 PM #9
Of course print can't fully inform the tone with which Harras replied to these questions or made these statements, but man does it all sound Stepford.
That quote about Gail was basically as close as he could come to trying to claim that Gail was 'never taken off Batgirl, and never replaced on Batgirl.' without sounding like an idiot. Harras is as masterful as any politician in his reply, I will give him that.
01-14-2013, 01:30 PM #10
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Rake that muck. Rake it good.