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    Default Brad Bird And Damon Lindelof Tease Secret Film - Could It Be The Rocketeer? Maybe?

    I'm going to need your help with something.

    So, Damon Lindelof yesterday tweeted the image of a box. An infamous box that is already part of movie lore.

    Now, please pretend that this next little story is true. I'm sure it isn't, but let's play along. I don't know where the story started, but it goes something like this:

    Lindelof was exploring the Disney archives one day when he saw a box labelled 1952. He popped it open and the amazing collection of things he found inside, including early development work on a long abandoned film, then became the basis of his latest screenplay.

    A screenplay that has since attracted Brad Bird and George Clooney and will start production soon for release in December 2014.

    Here's the image Lindelof shared yesterday. Note that the 1952 tape goes over a typed label mentioning the 1965 Disney film That Darn Cat, suggesting perhaps that this box wasn't put together in '52.



    Pretty quickly, Brad Bird trumped Lindelof and tweeted a picture of his own. In Bird's image, the lid had been taken off and we are able to see what's inside.

    So here's what Lindelof and co. have assembled to play the role of long-lost mystery box. Here are the clues they want to give you now.



    Aint It Cool identified the cover of an Amazing Stories from 1928. It's the August issue and contained these stories stories:
      • Part one of E. E Smith and Lee Hawkins Garby's Skyark of Space, as depicted on the cover
      • Joe Kleier's The Head
      • HG Wells' The Moth
      • One of Henry Hughs Simmons' Hick's Inventions With A Kick
      • Philip Francis Nowlan'sArmageddon - 2419, A.D, the first appearance of one Anthony Rogers, soon after renamed Buck
    Any or none of these could be relevant.

    Also in the box is a reel of technicolor film, a vinyl record, some mysterious apparatus and at least two pictures of Walt Disney meeting with people.

    None of it really points clearly at any one thing... necessarily.

    But here's a fun theory...

    Let's count up some jigsaw pieces: It's a Disney film. The year 1952 is involved. There's an Amazing Stories in the box featuring a chap with a flying gizmo on his back and the first Buck Rogers story. There's some mysterious apparatus in the box.

    Well, Dave Stevens, creator of The Rocketeer was born in 1952. Disney have been working on a new version of The Rocketeer.The flying gizmo speaks for itself. Stevens cited Buck Rogers as an inspiration. Smuggled reels of film footage factor into the plot of The Rocketeer, even.

    If you think George Clooney is too old to play The Rocketeer then maybe you're wrong - or maybe you're right and he's playing the villain. He'd be bang-on for a Neville Sinclair type.

    Somewhere along the line, somebody said that 1952 would feature an unidentified flying object. Well, if they were making a joking reference to this being a secret Rocketeer picture, that's pretty funny.

    Okay, I'm far from certain myself so you are probably laughing already.

    Incidentally, there's one more clue I haven't factored into any of this: we understand that the film has been casting for two teenage characters, a boy and a girl, fairly big parts but not necessarily leads. Maybe that alone is enough to puncture my Rocketeer idea?

    I hope that one of you reading this can recognise the pictures of Disney in the box, or even somehow identify the record. There's got to be more to this than a copy of Amazing Stories, surely?

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    Dave (not Dan) Stevens created the Rocketeer. Does anyone proofread their stories around here?

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    Considering The Rocketeer takes place before America enters World War 2 in 1941. Unless they decided to do a "Return" set during the Cold War 1950's.

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    maybe it's buck rogers?

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    After "Batman and Robin" I can't see Clooney appearing in a comic book based motion picture. And no, I don't see the Batfilm's failure as Clooney's fault.

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    In doing a quick search for Disney in 1952 I found the following:

    March 27

    The Burbank Daily Review reports on the first public announcement of a proposed US$1.5 million development called Disneyland at the corner of Riverside and Buena Vista roads.

    April 3

    Walt Disney submits a sketch of a "Fairy Land" to the Recreation and Parks commissioners on Riverside Drive between Disney studios and Griffith Park.


    I could see a fantastical presentation about the development of the theme park as an option, with Clooney portraying Walt. Hey, if Tom can do it so can George.

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    With Disney owning Marvel now, and having all those properties, I don't know that they really care anymore about doing a movie where they've gotta give somebody that isn't them money. Or does Disney really own the character completely and outright? I've never really been able to figure that out, really. If they do, how long will it be before Marvel starts publishing new Rocketeer comics over Dark Horse? (could they possibly do that to Langridge twice?)

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    ^ I have no knowledge on who owns what but 2 things..
    IDW has the current comic license
    There are many different rights. IDW may have licensed the comic rights, while Disney may have bought in perpetuity the live action (or even just movie) rights. They wouldn't need to own the character outright to make movies on their dime (see Tarzan, for example)
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    The Aug 1928 Amazing Stories is basically the most famous issue of any pulp that there is. If the movie's not Rocketeer or Buck Rogers, I could almost see that being in there as emblematic of pulps (which would have been in their waning days in 1952) or the pulp era in general.

    I'm curious about that blue book spine there. We can see MO___L (maybe?) RESEARCH. Then is that "POLAND" towards the bottom?
    This is another test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scavenger View Post
    ^ I have no knowledge on who owns what but 2 things..
    IDW has the current comic license
    There are many different rights. IDW may have licensed the comic rights, while Disney may have bought in perpetuity the live action (or even just movie) rights. They wouldn't need to own the character outright to make movies on their dime (see Tarzan, for example)
    That's part of what I've never fully understood. I've read people say that Stevens sold the character to Disney outright...but it seems like IDW's Rocketeer comics happened after the Marvel purchase, which feels incorrect.

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