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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfist View Post
    from what i've heard it was only numbered 4 after it's original cinematic release (all 3) however if Lucas intended prequel from the start then it stands to reason.
    I don't remember where, but I remember reading an article many years back where he basically said that he decided to call it Episode 4 because he realized that he had created so much back story that A New Hope simply couldn't be truly considered the beginning. Whether or not he intended, back then, to ever show that back story to the public is a different matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyGreenJerusalem View Post
    it's just prequels sounded like the dumbest idea in the world back then - were there even prequels for anything back in those days?
    Butch and Sundance: The Early Days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Comicsfan101 View Post
    I actually think Star Wars may have been the first box office movie type thing where people actually did talk about prequels, mostly because the first one was numbered 4. Always made it seem like there should be something before it to a lot of people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfist View Post
    from what i've heard it was only numbered 4 after it's original cinematic release (all 3) however if Lucas intended prequel from the start then it stands to reason.
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    I don't remember where, but I remember reading an article many years back where he basically said that he decided to call it Episode 4 because he realized that he had created so much back story that A New Hope simply couldn't be truly considered the beginning. Whether or not he intended, back then, to ever show that back story to the public is a different matter.
    When Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope was first shown in movie theaters, it was simply called Star Wars. No Episode 4, no A New Hope. Those were only added after the release of Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back.

    More stuff about Lucas's original plans for the Star Wars saga at The Long, Winding, and Shapeshifting Trail to Episodes VII, VIII & IX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comicsfan101 View Post
    If anyone should be on the shit list for John Carter, it's the advertising department, who didn't do a damn thing to actually promote that movie.
    stanton had final say on marketing issues, including the trailers and ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comicsfan101 View Post
    If anyone should be on the shit list for John Carter, it's the advertising department, who didn't do a damn thing to actually promote that movie.
    Yeah, all those Super Bowl ads - including a special Super Bowl promo tie-in contest - that's absolutely nothing

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    I think the problem with John Carter, more than anything, was the title. Doesn't really get the blood pumping.

    And Alex Cross bombed too. I feel bad for Jack Reacher's chances now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kalicki View Post
    I think the problem with John Carter, more than anything, was the title. Doesn't really get the blood pumping.
    I'd go with the dullness of the film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kalicki View Post
    I think the problem with John Carter, more than anything, was the title. Doesn't really get the blood pumping.

    And Alex Cross bombed too. I feel bad for Jack Reacher's chances now.
    They should have re-named Alex Cross "madea hunts a serial killer"
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    Quote Originally Posted by toodoor View Post
    I'd go with the dullness of the film.
    Boo to you, sir. Boo to you.

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    From Variety:
    Disney likely to treat Lucasfilm like Pixar - Lucasfilm will face task of ramping up production
    Quote Originally Posted by David S. Cohen
    As far as many visual effects mavens were concerned, the Disney-Lucasfilm merger sent a great disturbance through the Force.

    While Disney is the ideal company to exploit "Star Wars" through theme parks, the acquisition included Industrial Light & Magic, the greatest name in visual effects.

    Vfx pros remember Disney's acquisition and dismantling of another vfx studio, Dream Quest Images, and still resent it.

    At the 2006 Visual Effects Society Awards, just weeks after the Disney-Pixar merger, John Lasseter recounted his early days at Disney (He was fired for daring to experiment with CG animation), and some in the audience booed the very mention of the company. Those wounds may not be fresh, but they are deep.

    I think their concern is misplaced. It's the larger Lucasfilm, not ILM, that I'm going to be keeping an eye on. I expect Lucasfilm will be treated a lot like Pixar, and that's not entirely a good thing.

    Pixar is one of two relevant precedents for such an acquisition under the Bob Iger regime, the other being Marvel.

    Pixar and its leadership were paid billions to come in and resuscitate Disney's animation operation, and if the excellent "Wreck-It Ralph" is any indication, that effort seems to be succeeding. But in exchange for Disney's billions, Pixar had to commit to making sequels, which it had refused to do before the merger. They've had to ramp up production from a movie every one to two years to a movie about every nine months.

    The problem is that Pixar's approach to filmmaking, which made it the most reliable hitmaker in the business and the most trusted brand in entertainment, can't be scaled up that much, so it had to change. Originally, every staffer worked on every Pixar feature, sometimes doing multiple tasks on each picture. Now they have multiple production teams and more specialists.

    Moreover, their "brain trust" approach, in which every Pixar director participates in reviews of every other director's footage, works well when there are two or three movies in production but is much harder to implement when there are eight or nine movies in the pipeline.

    Pixar's tech side, its animation and CG, is magnificent and always improving. But their once-unerring story sense seems to be wavering. "Cars 2" and "Brave" looked gorgeous but weren't great stories. They seem to be slipping.

    What about Marvel Studios? It has long had a road map for up to three pics a year, so Disney didn't need to ramp it up. Marvel doesn't have a vfx company, but Marvel's Victoria Alonso oversees vfx on Marvel pics, taking over some of a vfx studio's traditional management functions.

    Disney lets Marvel do what it does, and since Marvel already does it inexpensively, it's a good fit. Under Alonso, Marvel opted not to bring back ILM for vfx on "Iron Man 3." (It had done the first two "Iron Man" pics.) Vfx work on that pic has been split between several vfx studios, including Digital Domain and a Chinese company. Alonso says Disney wasn't involved in that decision, and given Marvel's penchant for keeping costs down, I don't see any reason to doubt her.

    Like Pixar, Lucasfilm has a built-in tech operation that's the envy of the industry, plus a layer of creative and business leadership to protect it from Disney micromanagement. Like Marvel, Lucasfilm has its own pre-existing intellectual property. But Lucasfilm doesn't have a proven history of being able to make several movies a year. It will have to go from making a movie every now and then, when the spirit moved George Lucas, to delivering movies on a consistent schedule. In that respect, too, it's more like Pixar.

    So I'm not worried about ILM under Disney. Given the pressures on the vfx industry in California, Disney is the least of ILM's problems. I think Kathy Kennedy's bigger challenge is revitalizing Lucasfilm to meet the new production schedule. She's taking a roadster that's been up on blocks for a while and restoring it for a punishing cross-country rally. ILM's the one part of the car that's road-tested and proven. It's the rest of the vehicle that needs adjustment.

    Kennedy must make the rest of Lucasfilm's development and production operation match ILM's quality, speed and flexibility. I expect Disney will leave her alone to do what she does, like Marvel. And I expect that internally, ILM will show the rest of Lucasfilm the way.

    But, as Pixar has found, accelerating production to meet Disney's hungry merchandising and theme park pipelines can bring tradeoffs. Let's hope Lucasfilm is ready for the race.

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    From Variety:
    Disney sees Q4 profits rise, touts Lucasfilm integration - Bob Iger says acquisition of 'Star Wars' brand will 'further fuel Disney's creative engine'
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Graser

    When asked whether Disney could handle another major brand in its portfolio, Iger wasn't concerned about fitting Lucasfilm's assets into the mix.

    "Six years after the Pixar acquisition, there's proof this brand's been handled effectively," Iger said. "We've demonstrated our ability to be ambidexterous. The 'Star Wars' brand doesn't need much help but benefits greatly from the release of a film. When we take over distribution of their films and are the owner of the brand, we're more focused on growing the brand than the third-party distributor was."

    While 20th Century Fox still controls distribution rights for the "Star Wars" films that were made and any re-releases in 3D, "We did not factor in any need to acquire rights back from News Corp.," Iger said. "We may choose to explore that, but all value is going-forward value."

    Toward that end, Iger said, "Lucas product will be co-branded with Disney's name on it."


    Iger said he sees the Lucasfilm acquisition as a "great opportunity to infuse our stores with 'Star Wars' merchandise and grow our online business."

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