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Thread: What Does This New Mickey Mouse T-Shirt Have To Do With Suicide And The Nazi's Concentration Camp Sex Slaves?

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    Default What Does This New Mickey Mouse T-Shirt Have To Do With Suicide And The Nazi's Concentration Camp Sex Slaves?

    There's a fine Disney tradition of "Hidden Mickeys", whereby the famous three-circles shape of Mickey Mouse's head is hidden in a piece of furniture, architecture, artwork or, really, where ever. The theme parks are crawling with them, and I had fun hunting down as many as I could when in the studio's hat building.

    There's also a long line of cross-over works, very often T-shirts or posters, that see pop icons mashed up, sometimes aptly, sometimes in odd juxtaposition. I've got an image of Kermit "doing" the Born in the USA cover very vividly written to memory.

    This new Mickey Mouse shirt design is, I suppose, both of these things - a Hidden Mickey and a pop mash up.



    That's clearly an homage to the cover of Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures album, which itself was a re-appropriation of a figure from an Astronomy text book.

    I saw the design at Pitchfork. They really don't seem very happy about it:
    Uhhhhhhhhh.... Does Disney know that the singer of this band hanged himself?! Do they know where the name "Joy Division" comes from?!

    Oh dear.

    I don't see that this design has become any more encoded or tainted with Ian Curtis' tragic suicide or the invocation of the band's name than has, say, the rest of Curtis' life, the music he made, his contributions to culture. These things don't all run into one another and cause infestations that "rot" the separate parts. And neither should "serious" things be off-bounds for the less-serious - isn't it all about the final message? And I can't see any horrendous message in this mix. It's an association of two positive things.

    It's also worth noting that we're talking about a record cover here - something designed as a marketing device, to attract the eye, the intrigue that follows, and as a result, sales. It hasn't suddenly been commercialised - it always was.

    Of course, I'm acting surprised that there are people rushing to decry this shirt design. Stepping back just a little the patterns are familiar and obvious.

    Selling this T-shirt will do no harm to either party.

    And it's not as if there's no cross over in appreciation. I mean, really - hands up who likes both the mouse and the band? Surely I'm not the only one? Isn't there space in life for both - and even this strange, singular junction of the two at once?

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    Where can I get this? I want it right now...and I'm a jew!
    Shut up Pitchfork, you're usually such a good site.
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    Yeah, another one to file under "some people have too much time on their hands". Take your outrage where it'll do some good, folks!

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    On the other hand it's not the first time Mickey has been linked to nazi ideals!
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    I believe the real outrage is at Joy Division being Disneyfied. With that said, the shirt only comes in XXL.

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    Here I thought this was a bootleg shirt at first. Geez. Disney mashin up with Joy Division? Unofficially for the band, of course. Now if a band like Joy Division did this with the bullshitly simple Mickey logo, they'd be sued out of existence. So it is certainly a bit hypocritical that Disney feels they can use the name of a band and parody an album cover for profit when anyone trying to do the same with anything Disney is blasted.

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    What you said.... And how interesting that if you go to Disney's site the shirt is now sold out. To me it's just another example of them showing how they're the biggest dick corporation around.
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    Here I thought this was a bootleg shirt at first. Geez. Disney mashin up with Joy Division? Unofficially for the band, of course. Now if a band like Joy Division did this with the bullshitly simple Mickey logo, they'd be sued out of existence. So it is certainly a bit hypocritical that Disney feels they can use the name of a band and parody an album cover for profit when anyone trying to do the same with anything Disney is blasted.

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    I always find the "Disney and Nazi's" link to be a curious one when people try to bring it up...

    I mean.. it's not as obvious as "Ford and Hitler" (Hitler did keep a painting(?... or was it a photo?) of Henry Ford in his office....


    Regardless.. people are ridiculous... much as I dislike some of what Disney (the company) have done to maintain their copyrights and trademarks... it does seem that if you fail to enforce your ownership of them you run the risk of losing them... but that's not really the issue at play here.

    Joy Division (and New Order even) are good.. and I enjoy much of Disney's animations.

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    Where do the nazi sex slaves fit into this?

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    Do they know how stupid this guy looks wearing this T-shirt?:


    I think the T-Shirt has little to do with it.


    For myself, I quite like it, it does nothing to ruin my liking of Joy Division and is quite a nice reference for those who love both the band and mickey
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