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    There was a time when we used to worry there was just too much advertising in comics. Marvel were a key villain in this, with more ads for variuous companies in a comic book than pages of story. Only about ten years ago, this was seen clearly as A Bad Thing.

    Then all the advertising went away. This was also seen as A Bad Thing.

    Today's Marvel comics have ads on the back cover as usual, for the Brooklyn Nets (who recently entered into a promnotional agreement with the publisher), on the inside cover a Dr Pepper ad (a rarity) while some have an ad for Slug Zombies toys. Everything else is a house ad, scattered through the issue.

    DC Comics have a back cover ad for TV show King Of The Nerds, for a station owned by Warners. Everything else is a house ad, scattered through the issue.

    Apart from Batwoman.

    Since the relaunch, Batwoman has specialised in storytelling through double page spreads, a style writer/artist JH Williams III developed on Promethea with Alan Moore, and had souught to replicate with other artists on the title as well. This kind of comic is hard to work with various pagination issues, with ads being the more prominent issue.

    And I noticed this week that all the ads had been moved to the back, allowing far more double page spreads than before. Not even Before Watchmen: Minutemen gets that treatment. If there were paid ads, I guess that may have been more of an issue. But house ads? They can move... and they do. Well, DC do want to keep JH sweet in time for his run on Sandman Zero.

    It also begs the question, as this format is not well serviced by digital or by traditional collections, if Batwoman will also get the sideways Absolute treatment now being afforded to Promethea? It would be nice....

    This week's Batwoman, guest starring Wonder Woman as it has the past few issues, also does something I really just twigged. It joins up the two seemingly different worlds of the Justice League comic and the Wonder Woman comic, representing both conceptually and through different drawing styles. Did all this come from one artist?

    And doesn't it make a lot more sense of both of these?









    Comics courtesy of Orbital Comics, London.

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    Damn, I absolutely can't see what Rich means with his Wonder Woman comment. Should I be able to see it in the two panels from Wonder Woman and Justice League?
    I bet it's something really easy to spot and I'll look stupid in the end, but I wanna know anyway.


    The only thing that comes to mind are the different speech-patterns, but in the Batwoman page WW doesn't speak at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by die-yng View Post
    Damn, I absolutely can't see what Rich means with his Wonder Woman comment. Should I be able to see it in the two panels from Wonder Woman and Justice League?
    I bet it's something really easy to spot and I'll look stupid in the end, but I wanna know anyway.


    The only thing that comes to mind are the different speech-patterns, but in the Batwoman page WW doesn't speak at all.
    Basically, in Justice League, she's just a tough woman who dives head first into a fight. There's not too much depth given to her in Justice League, but it's mostly all action. Which Justice League as a whole has been doing.

    Wonder Woman looks, acts, and feels very different. They are developing a rich detailed story that maintains that level of action at times, but spends just as much time developing the characters and cast around her, while telling their particular story.

    In the end, reading Justice League and reading Wonder Woman, can, at times, feel like you're reading two different characters. Though I guess in the end, the character development should be in her solo book while the team book focuses more on the threats and the action.

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    I want my product placement IN PANEL. I want Wonder Woman to shout "COKE IS IT!" while slaying a dragon and Spidey to talk about buying a new Lexa in one of those Augmented Reality bits. I want Wolverine to casually offer the X-Men some delicious, microwaveable Wanchai Ferry Mandarin Chicken w/ Fried Rice™, with a close up panel of the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew72287 View Post
    Basically, in Justice League, she's just a tough woman who dives head first into a fight. There's not too much depth given to her in Justice League, but it's mostly all action. Which Justice League as a whole has been doing.

    Wonder Woman looks, acts, and feels very different. They are developing a rich detailed story that maintains that level of action at times, but spends just as much time developing the characters and cast around her, while telling their particular story.

    In the end, reading Justice League and reading Wonder Woman, can, at times, feel like you're reading two different characters. Though I guess in the end, the character development should be in her solo book while the team book focuses more on the threats and the action.
    Ah, it's just that. I thought it was something visual he was refering to. Well I'd say all characters in Justice League are very flat and one dimensional, it just seems so extreme with Wonder Woman because Azzarello gives the stories and characters there so much depth, while other characters aren't neccessarily depicted any deeper in their on books.
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    They've been putting the ads in the back of Batwoman since about issue #3 or #4. This is hardly news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars Hottentot View Post
    I want my product placement IN PANEL. I want Wonder Woman to shout "COKE IS IT!" while slaying a dragon and Spidey to talk about buying a new Lexa in one of those Augmented Reality bits. I want Wolverine to casually offer the X-Men some delicious, microwaveable Wanchai Ferry Mandarin Chicken w/ Fried Rice™, with a close up panel of the bag.
    Ha... remember when Marvel tried this a while back?

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    Craig beat me to the fact that the ads have been in the back of BW for a while now.

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    I like the way Boom! does it, all the house-ads in the back. (at least I think it's Boom!). Marvel and DC relly should adopt this full time. Makes for a better read, when it's nothing to gain in revenue from ads. Which makes the in-house ads more annoying than informative.

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    heh. Bewbs...

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