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    Quote Originally Posted by alekesam View Post
    Yeah, but that's two different approaches being applied here. DC is flogging it for all it's worth with little regard to the well possibly drying up (that's not even getting into whether or not there's actual demand for more and more Watchmen product) whereas Lucas, love him or hate him, you could never argue that he hasn't been negligent in the quality control department and has at least a winning percentage in the good stuff the franchise has department. Plus, there's the whole fandom that actually wanted more SW stuff. No one is really going,"Man, I wish there was another Watchmen mini" at that level.
    "Flogging it for all it's worth" is doing a new series of comics 25 years later? Come on, man. You just want it to be different. Is Before Watchmen worse than some of those Star Wars novels or comics? Give me a break.

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    At this point, I think I'd rather them just announce some After Watchmen projects.

    Quote Originally Posted by _OM_ View Post
    ...Fuck that. I want a crossover between Bubastis and the Zoo Crew.
    I'll raise you one. I'd love to just see a full on funny animal continuation of the series (well, maybe not funny, but y'know).

    Following Dr. Manhattan 'killing' Rorschach, his first choice to create new life is to reincarnate him as one of the dogs who ate Blair Roche (his logic being that his particular brand of justice was a necessity of sorts, but available in a way where his ability to communicate with the world at large was severely limited. Also, because of his love of bean juice. Human bean juice.) His partner in crime-biting is the trained owl of Daniel and Laurie Dreiberg (who have since given up the costumes...with the bedroom being the exception). I figured he'd either be given a cutesy name like Silky or maybe something a little 'stronger' sounding like Spectre (either that or he'd go directly to being called Nite-Owl III). They'd be up against the also-reincarnated Bubastis, who has since undergone a process similar to Jon Osterman's transformation into Dr. Manhattan. But what is his plan? What does The Squid have to do with it? And where does the missing body of Byron "Mothman" Lewis fit in to all of this?

    "Do it? I did it thirty-five minutes ago. Or two hours ago? Maybe tomorrow...I can't tell, since I have no concept of time."

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0rris0n View Post
    Has any of the Before Watchmen stuff been any good? I tried to get through the first issues and was mostly bored.
    Ozymandias, yes, for fecking gorgeous artwork... Silk Spectre and Comedian, 50/50 for some interesting elements, the rest, not so much... IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kalicki View Post
    These things must be selling better than certain people would like to admit if they're doing more.
    BW, the hair restoring internet viagra of comics...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kalicki View Post
    Maybe he isn't putting aside his morals for financial gain at all and just really wanted to work on this particular book. I remember his letter asking for work last year or whenever was very specific about what he would or would not draw, so I can only assume this would fit his pre-established criteria.
    On Dollar Bill I suspect he can play a 'post ironic piss take', get out of jail for free card and make it work...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kalicki View Post
    "Flogging it for all it's worth" is doing a new series of comics 25 years later? Come on, man. You just want it to be different. Is Before Watchmen worse than some of those Star Wars novels or comics? Give me a break.
    Arguably, yes.

    Star Wars never pretended to be anything more than space opera. Watchmen was supposed to have at least some small degree of dignity/gravitas as a piece of literature...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter J Poole View Post
    Star Wars never pretended to be anything more than space opera. Watchmen was supposed to have at least some small degree of dignity/gravitas as a piece of literature...

    Cheers
    Enh, I'm not buying it. Watchmen's supposed dignity and gravitas doesn't preclude its having sequels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter J Poole View Post
    Ozymandias, yes, for fecking gorgeous artwork...
    I'm lost interest now (what's the point of going over scenes in the original, again?) but some of the writing has been good, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike H. View Post
    I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Rude has been diagnosed with depression and has had to seek help for it in the past. Not trying to excuse his actions but I'm also not ready to accept one police incident report at face value, either.
    Edited to try and be nicer to people like Steve Rude. You guys can have him.
    Last edited by Victorian Squid; 11-04-2012 at 07:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Kalicki View Post
    "Flogging it for all it's worth" is doing a new series of comics 25 years later? Come on, man. You just want it to be different. Is Before Watchmen worse than some of those Star Wars novels or comics? Give me a break.
    Oh, all those Star Wars novels were done against George Lucas' expressed wishes??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victorian Squid View Post
    Actually, that account originally came from Rude's wife. I'm sure the story from the neighbor's POV would be worse.

    This response can serve as double-duty to the idiotic rejoinder from "bot" something or other as well about there being two sides to every story. That's cool--why don't you go get the neighbors' as see what they have to say?

    Because dogs in a fenced-in yard barking on Halloween? I don't see that as any call to either throw rocks at them, or threaten your neighbors. And that is nothing unusual, of course dogs will be barking (in their own fucking yard) on a night like that.
    Man you have no f***ing idea what you are talking about. Were you there?? Otherwise leave it alone.

    Suppose the fence was pretty close to where the kids had to walk to get candy from Rude's door. Suppose the dog was not just barking languidly like some crap you've seen on TV - suppose the dog was barking viciously and getting worked up every time some little 5 year-old came walking near

    In most neighbor cases - both sides do shit purposefully to annoy the other. It's a fact of life

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEwok View Post
    Man you have no f***ing idea what you are talking about. Were you there??
    It seems unlikely, but were you at the crime scene?

    It's probably for the best if you don't answer that. Doubtless you weren't, but it sounds like you might have quite liked to have been involved.
    Last edited by Ian Coke; 11-04-2012 at 10:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victorian Squid View Post
    Edited to try and be nicer to people like Steve Rude. You guys can have him.
    Thanks! I like his work. My interactions with him at cons have also always been very pleasant.

    And, hell, he's not *my* neighbor...

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