I notice Swishy is banned. I think we can all accept that as a good thing, right? Let's try to agree on that one thing at least.
Jack Kirby Interview | The Comics Journal
Jack outright states Lee takes far, far too much credit for the FF: IE any, beyond dialogue.
Stan Lee has never been fit to lick Jack Kirby's boots, and the King was pretty obviously the conceptual powerhouse behind those comics: Kirby and Lee, and that's insanely generous to the old hack. Jack went on to do New Gods: Stan did... Ravager 2099?
Writing dialogue (which Lee was effortlessly terrible at) is not the same as creating (which Lee has gone on to prove he is effortlessly terrible at).
Marvel: S-man 2099, Rocket Raccoon
DC: Wonder Woman, Injustice, Detective Comics, Sandman Overture
Indie: Sonic the Hedgehog, MegaMan, Street Fighter, SkullKickers, Fatale, Elephantmen, Afterlife of Archie, The Wicked+The Divine