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    Default Swipe File: The Lawmaster And The Lawcopy?

    Here is the cover to Dredd #8 by Howard Chaykin, and coloured by Jesus Aberto, posted by IDW EIC Chris Ryall;



    And a drawing, finished and unfinished, by 2000AD artist Lee Carter. As website Everything Comes Back To 2000AD points out the Lawgivers, the Judge's motorbikes are damn near identcal...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Johnston View Post
    the Lawgivers, the Judge's motorbikes are damn near identcal...
    As are the Dredds except for the Heads and his right arm.

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    One more reason to loathe Chaykin's art.

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    I can see a rookie artist doing this, but what was Chaykin thinking? Awful.

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    Chaykin was probably just banging out a quick job. He's gone all digital, so I imagine he did swipe the bike.
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    Not only that, what makes anyone think that Chaykin, a 62 year old vet of American comics, not British, would know anything about Judge Dredd? Didn't this happen earlier with... was it Paul Gulacy?... using the Stallone costume as their template for a cover? Why is it so hard for Americans to do Dredd with any level of competence?

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    Well that's...shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars Hottentot View Post
    Not only that, what makes anyone think that Chaykin, a 62 year old vet of American comics, not British, would know anything about Judge Dredd? Didn't this happen earlier with... was it Paul Gulacy?... using the Stallone costume as their template for a cover? Why is it so hard for Americans to do Dredd with any level of competence?
    To be completely fair, he's always been fairly open to interpretation depending on the artist. 2000AD editorial have never been very fussed about enforcing any fixed template, so a bit of variance is absolutely fine and dandy. But both this and the Gulacy thing just smack of complete laziness. I'm guessing they went to Google and just picked whatever they felt like using as a reference rather than asking for something to work from.

    Not been overly impressed with the US Dredd comic in general, really. It's not been a horrible insult to the character or anything, but the stories have been pretty shoddy so far. Any competent 2000AD regular can and has done far more with the character in less pages. I just think Americans don't get the tone of it. Satire and irony always seem to have been tricky for mainstream US comic writers, and those aspects are so crucial to good Dredd stories. If you don't get the black humour inherent in the entire concept, you're just writing a fascist asshole, and that can't be an easy thing to make compelling.

    Hell, they probably might have been able to pull it off if they had just delivered a really balls out action comic, but it all just seems a bit cramped and inconsequential. It feels a bit like the kind of fan fiction a really competent 12 year old Dredd fan might write, but as a proper comic...not so great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Johnston View Post
    ...points out the Lawgivers, the Judge's motorbikes are damn near identcal...
    Actually it's the bikes that are called Lawmasters, whereas the Judges' guns are the Lawgivers.

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    I don't get it. The bikes aren't supposed to look the same?

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