Fanboy Rampage: Ethan Van Sciver Vs Rob Liefeld

[Hdefined]

How am i bitter? ITS TRUE. Turn on the news .

MOLDY.

Dude, after your birther rant on the Colbert/Trump thread, I can't take anything you say seriously anymore.

[Enigma_2099]

Man... politics brings out the absolute worst in people doesn't it? You people are scaring me.

[Cavemold]

Dude, after your birther rant on the Colbert/Trump thread, I can't take anything you say seriously anymore.

then go look for yourself.

MOLDY.

[Hdefined]

then go look for yourself.

MOLDY.

Post it yourself if you really believe it will convince anyone of anything, birther.

[poneley]

The thing about the GOP or conservatives is that they are not presenting a message or a platform that is reaching out to me or many Americans. More American's lean towards the left or the platform/ideas of the left (see election results). Most American's believe that the wealthy should pay higher taxes. If the GOP want to have more power/appeal they need to change their message, do something about it.

There is some sort of magical thinking going on with the conservative right. The idea that "sticking to their guns" is the answer is not working out. The idea of denying reality, fabricating reality and fighting compromise is not working out. There was the whole debacle about Nate Silver and about polls being "gamed" to favor the left. Well, the fact is that more folks are leaning to the left right now. You can't deny reality and you can't call it "gamed" if it accurately represents what is going on. Of course more left leaning people will be polled, because there are MORE LEFT LEANING PEOPLE! It does not serve conservatives to have polls with "equal" weight given to left/right leaning people because its not an accurate representation of reality. smh.

Oh and for all the slander and bs thrown at Nate Silver, he was like 99% correct in his projections. He also used MATH and SCIENCE to come to his predictions. Will anyone learn a lesson from this-- we'll see. We'll see.

[Hdefined]

The thing about the GOP or conservatives is that they are not presenting a message or a platform that is reaching out to me or many Americans. More American's lean towards the left or the platform/ideas of the left (see election results). Most American's believe that the wealthy should pay higher taxes. If the GOP want to have more power/appeal they need to change their message, do something about it.

There is some sort of magical thinking going on with the conservative right. The idea that "sticking to their guns" is the answer is not working out. The idea of denying reality, fabricating reality and fighting compromise is not working out. There was the whole debacle about Nate Silver and about polls being "gamed" to favor the left. Well, the fact is that more folks are leaning to the left right now. You can't deny reality and you can't call it "gamed" if it accurately represents what is going on. Of course more left leaning people will be polled, because there are MORE LEFT LEANING PEOPLE! It does not serve conservatives to have polls with "equal" weight given to left/right leaning people because its not an accurate representation of reality. smh.

Oh and for all the slander and bs thrown at Nate Silver, he was like 99% correct in his projections. He also used MATH and SCIENCE to come to his predictions. Will anyone learn a lesson from this-- we'll see. We'll see.

To be fair, GOP views and values are applicable to reality - provided that reality is a nation full of 1950s white American sitcom-style families.

[not him - HIM]

To be fair, GOP views and values are applicable to reality - provided that reality is a nation full of 1950s white American sitcom-style families.

Now come on, that's not fair. Some of those values could also be found in early 1960s sitcoms too!

[Stefan Offenberg]

More American's lean towards the left or the platform/ideas of the left (see election results). Most American's believe that the wealthy should pay higher taxes.

Well, by definition, if most Americans support a particular position, it's not left or right, it's center. That's what has confounded Republicans-- they can't understand that the political center of the country has moved away from their positions over the decades. They can't accept the inevitable evolution of history. They look at change as something bad; the only the change they want is to go back to "the way things used to be." So the only thing left for them is to lie to the American public about what their positions actually are, and what their opponents' positions are, which is what we saw with Romney in this election.

There was the whole debacle about Nate Silver and about polls being "gamed" to favor the left. Well, the fact is that more folks are leaning to the left right now. You can't deny reality and you can't call it "gamed" if it accurately represents what is going on. Of course more left leaning people will be polled, because there are MORE LEFT LEANING PEOPLE! It does not serve conservatives to have polls with "equal" weight given to left/right leaning people because its not an accurate representation of reality.

To quote Stephen Colbert: "Reality has a well-known liberal bias."

[Stefan Offenberg]

Now come on, that's not fair. Some of those values could also be found in early 1960s sitcoms too!

Nowadays, husbands and wives sleep in separate beds for completely different reasons.

[MagSeven]

I found myself agreeing with Liefeld and had the weirdest feeling. It was like having too many "C" answers in a row on a multiple choice test. Something HAS to be wrong!