"Seamless" ignoring of troll droppings?

[_OM_]

Mark? Is the BBS code modifiable enough to where you can ignore someone and have the forum posting be seamless with no reminders?

...Reposted as requested

[whomod wayne gacy]

I see that guy is getting on your nerves too.

[Jude Terror]

You would have to modify the actual source code, but it seems possible to me. You'd still see them in quotes though.

[_OM_]

You would have to modify the actual source code, but it seems possible to me. You'd still see them in quotes though.

...Such has been the problem with killfiling trolls, crackpots and idiots. The regulars have them blocked, but there'll always be n00bs who respond not knowing any better, and those semi-regulars to either have a sick fetish and love the trolling posts - we saw one guy here actually claim he *loved* seeing Quentin's babble, which betrays a mind in need of therapy - and/or have some misplaced comprehension about when the First Amendment really does not apply. The answer's the same we've used on usenet for two decades plus now: quietly advise those quoting the troll of whom they're quoting, and strongly urge them to <plonk> them as well. 99 times out of 100 they'll do a little research on past posts, realize they've been dealing with an idiot, and into Killfile Hell they'll go.

...Moderated forums, on the other hand, have someone watching over them, unlike most usenet newsgroups which are totally unmoderated. A mod who has an understanding of how disruptive a troll can be, and when to tell when someone's trolling versus someone just going off on a "stream of unconciousness" rant, can usually make the right decision and punt the troll out the door before he really gets too far out of line. There's an art to it, and Mark's starting to pick it up on the fly pretty good. He's to be given at least that much credit in BC's first troll infestation.

[Jude Terror]

...Such has been the problem with killfiling trolls, crackpots and idiots. The regulars have them blocked, but there'll always be n00bs who respond not knowing any better, and those semi-regulars to either have a sick fetish and love the trolling posts - we saw one guy here actually claim he *loved* seeing Quentin's babble, which betrays a mind in need of therapy - and/or have some misplaced comprehension about when the First Amendment really does not apply. The answer's the same we've used on usenet for two decades plus now: quietly advise those quoting the troll of whom they're quoting, and strongly urge them to <plonk> them as well. 99 times out of 100 they'll do a little research on past posts, realize they've been dealing with an idiot, and into Killfile Hell they'll go.

...Moderated forums, on the other hand, have someone watching over them, unlike most usenet newsgroups which are totally unmoderated. A mod who has an understanding of how disruptive a troll can be, and when to tell when someone's trolling versus someone just going off on a "stream of unconciousness" rant, can usually make the right decision and punt the troll out the door before he really gets too far out of line. There's an art to it, and Mark's starting to pick it up on the fly pretty good. He's to be given at least that much credit in BC's first troll infestation.

Haha yeah, a moderator on the job is really the most efficient solution. It really is a pain in the ass to deal with.

I've actually looked at the options to block quotes with ignore buttons before myself over at my home board, but it's really an issue with the way these message board systems handle quoting overall. Basically, the quote text is stored inside the text of the post in which the quote is made. In other words, the new post with the quote inside of it has all the text of the quoted post stored in the database as well. The solution to this would be to modify the way quotes are done entirely, with instead of adding that actual text to a post, have quoting refer back to the id of the original post and grab it from the database when the post is displayed. Unfortunately, that would eliminate some of the other functionality of quoting, like partial quotes, or changing someone's quote and writing "Fixed." Plus, it would query the database twice for each post with a quote in it, which could start to add up on the processor.

Another solution might be to change the way the ignore system functions, adding some code to the post display code that uses tags like "quote={ignoredpersonname}" and /quote to remove any text inbetween, but again, that's querying the database even more times, as it needs to check each quote tag against the names in a person's ignore list. I guess maybe that's why no one has done it yet. If I could figure it out though, I'd make a lot of board owners very happy.

[Zechs]

I'm guessing something is being done given someone from this thread alas has been removed from the forum.

[Jude Terror]

Zechs, you know about the drama? Fill me in please, via PM.

[Mark Seifert]

OM -- this looks to be a few years old, but if you're willing to install a greasemonkey script and see if it works, might be worth a try:

[ame="http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=23573"]Greasemonkey extension for Vbulletin Ignore - Broadband & ADSL Forums - Internet, Gaming, Hardware, Software[/ame]

[MapleJack]

Zechs, you know about the drama? Fill me in please, via PM.

Would that be possible for myself too, Zechs?

I a bit curious. This drive that makes some act in a fashion that is "trollish" is a little interesting. Plus, , it is a bit like reading about car accidents or other horrid things in the news.

[_OM_]

OM -- this looks to be a few years old, but if you're willing to install a greasemonkey script and see if it works, might be worth a try:

Greasemonkey extension for Vbulletin Ignore - Broadband & ADSL Forums - Internet, Gaming, Hardware, Software

...Gotta install Greasemonkey, but I'll give it a try. Thanks!