Tony Fleecs writes for Bleeding Cool. And draws for himself.
Last week I was invited to the set of the Extreme ComiXXX film, Justice League XXX where I interviewed members of the cast and crew. What follows is a transcript of those interviews. Two things before we get to the good stuff.
Firstly, I had never been to any sort of porn set prior to this, I’m not in the porno business, I make comic books so these will have a bit of an outsider’s perspective (even though I’ve seen a metric-shit-ton of porn in my day.) If you’re looking for insider scoop, I apologize.
And secondly, this is the first thing I’ve ever transcribed from a tape and as such, is a bit verbose (I guess you’re supposed to cut out “Uh’s” and “ah’s” when you transcribe but I like the “Uh’s” and “ah’s”) In any case, here’s every word of my conversations with the pornographers behind Justice League XXX.
Tony Fleecs: First off, I haven’t been to one of these before, it’s my first one, Is it just actor or porn actor or porn star.
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: Adult Entertainer.
Tony Fleecs: Adult Entertainer?
Chanel Preston: (Laughs)Yeah.
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: It makes us sound like we’re a little bit more…
Tony Fleecs: Legit.
Chanel Preston: (Laughs)
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: Than a girl that’s walking the street.
Chanel Preston:Yeah…thank you.
Tony Fleecs: I like that. That is the last time I’m going I have to ask that question.
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: That’s Jenna. Actually, Jenna Jameson coined that.
Tony Fleecs: Really! So, do you read or have read comic books?
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: No.
Chanel Preston: I don’t. I mean When I was younger I read Archie and Jughead, does that count?
Tony Fleecs: I read Archie and Jughead. That Totally counts.
Chanel Preston: They were the only comics I’ve read.
Tony Fleecs: You know all the Archie and Jughead comics are alliterated…they are alliterated or they rhyme Like it’s like Fun Run…or like Tiger Time and there will be a tiger and Jughead will be trying to eat hamburgers around the tiger.
Chanel Preston: Oh I didn’t catch that. Has it always been like that?
Tony Fleecs: I think so…at least as long as I was reading.
Chanel Preston: I was obsessed with them. I would like…I had a box full of them.
Tony Fleecs: Like the supermarket kind? The double digest?
Chanel Preston: Yeah.
Tony Fleecs: When you’re doing the dialogue scenes, obviously you’re acting, playing the Wonder Woman, is there any attempt during the sex scenes, when you’re fucking, do you try to fuck like you think Wonder Woman would fuck?
Chanel Preston: (Laugh) I was joking about that. I did a scene on Saturday where I was joking about that. I’m like How would Wonder Woman fuck?
Tony Fleecs: So you thought about it.
Chanel Preston: Umm…I think to an extent, yes. For instance, it wasn’t a passionate love scene, we weren’t like making out and blah blah blah, it was just fucking, you know. So in that sense, yes, but it’s not like down to the core. I mean we might make little comments. Like they might say Wonder Woman when we’re having sex or I might say whomever, so yeah, a little bit.
Tony Fleecs: Okay. Did you do research into Wonder Woman. Like did you watch the TV show?
Chanel Preston: I just went onto YouTube the day before to look up Wonder Woman cause I was like how does she even act. I had no idea. I couldn’t really find a lot of stuff. Um, usually, y’know on youtube how they have like these segments? They have like these 5 or 10 minute segments of a sitcom or whatever? They didn’t really have that. They had like, trailers. So I really didn’t get a chance to see her in dialog a lot.
Tony Fleecs: Right. Yeah, she’s usually like, pretty stiff. Like, she’s just sort of …
Chanel Preston: Yeah she didn’t have tons of personality, actually. She was just kind of there and would throw her little hat or… yeah. She didn’t have a lot of personality I noticed.
Tony Fleecs: Apparently, she was just raised on an island full of girls…
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: Oh, that’s right she was an amazon chick.
Tony Fleecs: Yeah and now she’s in the real world.
Chanel Preston: Good to know. I did not know this.
Tony Fleecs: Um… So like what’s the– Are you into anything nerdy? Like do you nerd out for stuff?
Chanel Preston: I can’t think of anything at the moment. I’m not…
Tony Fleecs: Like sports or–
Chanel Preston: Well, I mean I’m really– I try to be really active. When I’m home I’m usually really into hiking or running or– That’s like my main thing is trying to do something active all the time. Um… as far as “nerding out” on it… (Laughs)
Tony Fleecs: You don’t get all jazzed that you’re gonna go jog around?
Chanel Preston: (Laughs) No. I don’t really nerd out on it. I feel like I haven’t nerded out on something in years. Which is… A shame. I need to find something I can nerd out on.
Tony Fleecs: Uh… Do you like the pornography? Like do you nerd out about that? Do you get excited when you’re gonna shoot with certain people or certain things? Like, is this exciting?
Chanel Preston: I get– Oh, well it is exciting. I like shooting features.Um.. Y’know there’s the features which are the movies and then there’s the gonzo which is you just go in and shoot a quick scene.
Tony Fleecs: Right there’s just, somebody says “hello” and then you…
Chanel Preston: Yeah. Which is nice sometimes, because it’s quick. But then the features are always fun, y’know? I enjoy acting so, y’know it’s just… You get a change, y’know? I’s ot always the same thing.
Tony Fleecs: That actually kindof leads into my next question. Um, does playing a high profile superhero role mean the same thing in the adult industry as it does in mainstream hollywood film? Like, does your rate go up after this? Uh- is it like the big payday that you take so that you can do smaller, more personal work?
Chanel Preston: No.
Tony Fleecs: It’s the same as everything…
Chanel Preston: Unfortunately. (Laughs) I wish my rate could go up after this.
Tony Fleecs: You know like, Robert downey Jr. does Iron Man and then he can just do whatever the fuck he wants for the next–
Chanel Preston: Yeah. That’s unfortunately not the same. (Laughs)
Chris the PR guy: Are you using this as a platform to get to the more artistic side of porn?
Chanel Preston: Well no, he said is it like mainstream where if someone gets a big high profile role they can like, demand more money.
Tony Fleecs: Yeah, well now they’ll get Wonder Woman in their movie.
Chanel Preston: Chris, I’m gonna demand um… TWICE what I get now. Now that I was Wonder Woman.
Tony Fleecs: I would imagine your profile would go up dramatically, right?
Chanel Preston: It should but unfortunately this industry isn’y like….
Chris the PR guy: … Built the same way. Things like um, Major awards… Like winning the AVN’s Best New Starlet will jump it up. Like feature dancing because you’re essentially promoting yourself constantly on the road.
Tony Fleecs: Right, it’s like being in concert.
Chanel Preston: Yeah.
Tony Fleecs: OK. Um, so recently J. Michael Straczynski abruptly quit writing Wonder Woman comics to focus on other stuff. And he was replaced by multiple Eisner nominee Phil Hester. Did you hear about this?
Chanel Preston: No.
Tony Fleecs: Uh, this is a photo of Phil Hester. Handsome?
Chanel Preston: Oh yes!
Tony Fleecs: Yeah. He’s a good lookin’ guy, right? He’s from Iowa.
Chanel Preston: (laughs)
Tony Fleecs: Yeah they changed her costume. So she used to dress like this (gestures to Chanel’s costume) and now she has like a pants suit with a jacket. I’m not really sure what’s going on with it.
Chanel Preston: Well, they’ve changed a lot of the super heroes. Like I, if I’m on Yahoo news and stuff they’ll be like, “how’s so and so’s new costume?” and people comment like, “this looks stupid!” or…
Tony Fleecs: Yeah, they get like, Tim Gunn from Project Runway to come in and give his–
Chanel Preston: Oh, really?
Tony Fleecs: Yeah. But yeah, this is a much better costume, I think. This is a classic costume, right?
Chanel Preston: Well, and you don’t get any um- like- there’s no bias there. It’s just old school so you can’t go wrong with old school. Whereas if it was brand new, people could be angry or like boycot it.
Tony Fleecs: Or, y’know like 3 years from now if she’s not in that costume anymore than your movie will be like, dated.
Chanel Preston: Yeah.
Tony Fleecs: Um… that’s really all I got. I mean, I thought I had a lot more (holds up notebook) This looks like a lot of stuff right?
Chanel Preston: (Laughs)
Tony Fleecs: Well thank you very much for talking to me. It was very nice to meet you.
Chanel Preston: Thank you.
Chris the PR guy: Make sure you give him all your twitter site and your website.
Chanel Preston: Oh! Yes um, my website is: ChanelPreston.com and it’s not ChaNNel, everybody always likes to spell it Channel but it’s C-H-A-N-E-L.
Chanel Preston’s Makeup artist: Coco if you’re nasty.
Chanel Preston: And then my twitter is also chanelpreston so twitter.com/chanelpreston um. I usually don’t even give my myspace.. My facebook got deleted…
Tony Fleecs: Your facebook got deleted? What’s that about?
Chanel Preston: Oh.. Maybe.. I don’t know, maybe I showed too much.
Tony Fleecs: They do that? Like they’ll just…
Chanel Preston: Oh yeah they’ll delete your page but they–
Chris the PR guy: Basically, facebook is a bunch of bastards.
Chanel Preston: Yeah, they’re really strict on… Like, MySpace is more clear about what they don’t want like, they don’t want nipple, they don’t want butt crack and vagina. So- you can cover your nipple and you’re fine. Whereas facebook, they’re not clear on what they don’t want so… they can just decide that you showed too much of your butt cheek and…
Tony Fleecs: Twitter’s just like a free for all, right? Like you just do whatever you want.
Chanel Preston: Um, I’ve heard people getting (gestures to marketing chris) You told me that one time.
Chris the PR guy: You’re not supposed to post nudity on the wallpaper of twitter or on your profile picture but it’s a free-for-all in terms of, you can put links to any nude photo that you want.
Chanel Preston: Ok.
Tony Fleecs: Did you guys see the Social Network? The facebook movie.
Chanel Preston: Yeah I just saw that like, a week ago.
Tony Fleecs: that guy seems like he might be kindof a dick… in real life so maybe that had something to do with it.
Chanel Preston: Yeah, I was curious about him, if he was truly like that so I actually googled about him. And um.. I mean I’m sure it has some truth to it.
Chris the PR guy: He’s been sued by just about everybody he knows.
Chanel Preston: Yeah. Yeah.
Tony Fleecs: Yeah they had like a 60 Minutes piece where they–
Chris the PR guy: And where was it he went? Harvard or Yale?
Chanel Preston: It was Harvard.
Chris the PR guy: That should tell you something about that. If you’re a graduate student at an ivy league school, y’know you’re a little more down to earth. Chances are you’re there on scholarship you’re doing your research, all that–
Tony Fleecs: Naw, this kid was like, 17 at the time.
Chris the PR guy: yeah the undergrads at those schools tend to be little pricks.
Chanel Preston: Yeah, I don’t know why he was such a prick because he wan’t rich.
Chris the PR guy: No?
Chanel Preston: No.
Chris the PR guy: Was he there fully on scholarship?
Chanel Preston: Well according to the movie, he wasn’t one of the rich guys. But they didn’t really clarify like, WHY he was there or whatever.
Chris the PR guy: Maybe they were jut trying to make him more sympathetic.
Tony Fleecs: Maybe. He Got– he Turned into one of the rich guys.
Chanel Preston: Yeah that’s true.
Tony Fleecs: Alright. Well, thank you very much for talking to me.
Chanel Preston: Thank you.
Tony Fleecs is a comic book writer/artist who’s next book (which has almost nothing to do with porn) is coming out from Oni Press next year. The as-yet-unannounced book will be hilarious and also co-written by Joshua Fialkov, author of the also hilarious, Tumor. You can find Tony online at www.fleecsdesign.com
Chanel Preston is hot as balls and can be found online at www.chanelpreston.com